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May 17, 2008

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Mike

Trees are a renewable resource; the gas used to return the junk mail is not. You fail.

wakako takagi

Mike,

Thanks for the comment but I don't think you're getting our point. What we want is for the company to stop producing those junk mails so virgin resources are not used for something that are not needed/wanted by consumers. (Company "might" use recycled paper in some degree and if they can use those returned junk mail to recycle 100% to be another junk mail, it will be better...but I will challenge you that those shiny postcards are not 100% recycled paper).

To your another point, We will be wasting gas if we decided to drive to the company by ourselves to drop off those junk mails in front of the company's door step; however, since we piggy bag on already existing service infrastructure (postal service), we're not wasting any additional gas to return these mails.

J2theA

Do you seriously think that there are no costs to re-sending materials back to their place of origin? Or are you just trying to justify a knee-jerk humorous but totally irrelevant and inconsequential further consumption? Why not advocate planting more trees or taking public transportation instead, or even walking? I agree you fail.

Steven Nicholson

Trees are a renewable source. But companies that send out endless amounts of careless material are wasting supplies. And so, we will not be able to manage a state of equilibrium between using and renewing.

Paper management is an important issue. Companies should measure the impact they have on our environment. And by sending our junk mail back will help inform the company of the success of there promotion. If it isn’t working, there may be problem in design. So sending this back to the company could be mutually beneficial. The company could gage if their promotion is working or not (if not address the problem) and at the same time manage their use of paper. I receive endless amounts junk mail, and 9 times out of 10 recycled paper isn’t being used! Why? It’s cheaper and aesthetically better.

Why should I waste my time sifting through and making sure im cleaning up after polluter companies! I recycle the paper I consume, why should I help others that waste this material. If I send it back they can deal with it. And when these companies start getting taxed for this waste they will start thinking about paper.

To say paper is a renewable source then hush the matter as if it has no importance is unwise, and skirts the issue altogether.

People like Frindolin are tackling this issue head-on, and I for one think it’s the right way.

wakako takagi

J2theA,

We totally agree planting more trees and taking public transportation would also be great ways to improve the environmental issues. There are multiple ways of bringing awareness and/or doing the right things.

As a trend research consultant, we are always looking for different ways of how people are manifesting their beliefs and opinions. If you see interesting green movements happening, please let us know. We will be happy to feature it on our blog to spread the word.

As far as reducing the Junk Mail, you can also take a additional step by signing up at www.greendimes.org. or visit http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs4-junk.htm for further in depth reading.

Matt

Mike & J2theA have legitimate points however I am disappointed in how negative the tone is. I am all for constructive criticism that fosters communication, however, Mikes comment is simply pointless and narrow sighted.

Furthermore you both are missing the point. As Steven Nicholson touches on, I don't believe the value of this idea is in it's carbon footprint. Sending the stamped mail back is not about directly reducing waste, it is a protest aimed at changing the behavior and the system that produces massive amounts of waste. The junk mail system is profit driven and the only way it is going to change is if companies find that it is no longer worth the investment or they are compelled to stop through legislation or USPS regulations. I believe that if large amount of people stamped and sent back their junk mail, companies would take notice and consider when weighing the cost of the programs and the potential alienation of customers vs the benefit. Also, the USPS makes money when the ads are sent out, but they will lose money through tied up resources when the mail is sent back. This could cause them to re-evaluate their direct mail programs. For one, they may up the price to cover the cost of all the return mail which will make it less cost effective for marketing firms to do direct mailers, they may also end the direct mail program all together. on the contrary they may also stop taking the "Return to Waster" mail but at least for that to happen they will have noticed the protest. I like the idea and I advocate that people should first sign up for all the do-not-mail lists, then stamp and send back what ever else slips through. When all is said and done, even if it doesn't catch on ideas like this raise public awareness and encourage discussion.

Keep up the good work Wakako and Frindolin!

Barbara

Matt: You got it! Everyone seems to find a reason not to do something, even if it makes no sense. Anything for an argument, I guess. But all of your comments were exactly right, and no one is saying that it will stop ALL waste, etc. But if each of us return mail that was NOT ordered or wanted, it sends a message. It may take ahile for the effect to happen, but when do we start if not today? And who will start, if not us?
I lived in Holland, and you can sign up for Ja/Nee for a sticker to put on your mailbox. Ja (yes) means the mailman can put anything in the box in the way of ads and brochures, and nee (no) means only put in the mail addressed to sendee. It worked so greatly, and I had only the mail I wanted. Of course, most of the advertising stuff was hand delivered by students earning a few pennies; none went through the mail system itself. The government was not making money from the postage, as in USA, becaue there was no postage to pay. Small country, so it could be done. But the concept is great: if I didn't order it, it goes back, or doesn't land in my mail box at all.

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